I’m having too much fun with HB to give it up right now.
“Hillary Clinton says she takes full responsibility for her decisions.
There’s just one catch: She says her decisions weren’t the reason that she lost to Donald Trump.
At Recode’s Code Conference in California on Wednesday, the former Democratic presidential nominee was reflective, quick to crack jokes — and eager to cast blame. The more than hour-long question-and-answer event marked the latest in a series of public appearances for Clinton in which she explicitly took on the actions of those around her and other external circumstances in explaining why she lost on Election Day.
“I take responsibility for every decision I make — but that’s not why I lost,” Clinton said.
I had a good friend die about three years back, a hard core redneck conservative who was technically well educated, a man who over the course of his life read hundreds of classic books, etc. The only real difference between him and a true believing Clintonite is that he was a true believing Republican. Both kinds believe what they want, ignoring any evidence to the contrary.
He smoked Camels and drank Budweisers , and he knew more than enough hard science to understand the statistical implications of these habits.
But at least I can say this much for him. He said before he died of a cancer that is statistically tightly correlated with tobacco and alcohol that HE took it on himself to smoke and drink on a regular basis.
Clinton doesn’t seem to be able to wrap her head around the fact that if she hadn’t HAD a stupid and risky secret email system, there wouldn’t have been any problems associated with it. I have engaged in some risky behaviors over the years, and sometimes I paid a steep price for doing so, although I mostly got away with it , and came out smelling like a rose as the result, when my luck held.
Her luck didn’t hold, she was found out. If it had been a Republican caught with her email, she and my old buddy HB would be crowing with glee, celebrating the heavy coverage.
“Perhaps Clinton’s most fresh and savage criticism on Wednesday was directed at the Democratic National Committee. She went as far as to say that when she became her party’s presidential nominee, she inherited “nothing” from the committee.”
Wow! Here I have been all along suffering under the impression she OWNED the DNC more or less fee simple, lock, stock and barrel, as the result of reading about how it rigged the primaries in her favor to the extent that some of the top people were forced to resign for doing so, and that D Party lawyers actually had to go to court and argue that the D Party has no obligation to run a fair primary contest, charter or no.
“”I’m now the nominee of the Democratic Party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party,” Clinton said. “It was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency, its data was mediocre to poor, non-existent, wrong. I had to inject money into it — the DNC — to keep it going.”
Well, she could afford it I guess, she was raking it in by the millions in donations to her family slush fund, and making secret speeches to the banksters at roughly a million bucks an hour, as best I can estimate.
And of course it would NEVER occur to her that maybe some people believe that she was deathly scared of what the public would think of the content of those speeches, to the point she would rather risk losing a few million middle of the road voters than have the people know what she said for those millions.
I could go on of course, but there are copyright issues, the link is there, and it’s CNN, which has often been called the Clinton News Network by more than a few people.
She can blame the DNC for lack of good data, but the fact is that she surrounded herself by elitist yes boys and girls, and the Party officials refused to even TALK to anybody outside the Clinton camp, when it came to data, polling, etc. I don’t have the links proving this handy, but they are in my notes someplace. A long time party official was told in no uncertain terms he wasn’t IMPORTANT ENOUGH to talk to anybody higher than a gofer answering a phone, etc. Of course he was associated with the Sanders campaign, but that didn’t mean he didn’t have useful info, and the good will to share it.
She was stupid enough to call one of the LARGEST voting blocks in the country stupid, and while a good many white men ARE stupid, they don’t appreciate such insults as a group, nor as individuals.
The ones who are most prone to take offense are usually thinking I’m the only person left who can be made the butt of any sort of joke or insult, at no cost. Nobody else is treated this way, I’m now the subhuman, the N word of the last hundred years, unworthy of even simple common courtesy in public discourse.
Well, a good many men tend to take sufficient offense at this sort of insult that they either stay home, or vote for the opposition, figuratively giving the D establishment the straight finger. It never ceases to amaze me how boneheaded elitist Democrats can be in such situations.
Is making fun of poor guys who never had any real shot at getting a decent education more important to the ones who are in the habit of talking about stupid and ignorant Trump voters than actually winning elections?
Nobody, excepting people already on board with you, will ever listen to anything you have to say if you habitually insult them, their parents, their grandparents, and their culture, while cutting other people all the slack they could ever possibly want.
I know for an absolute fact that there are LOTS and LOTS of ignorant black people, but nobody in this forum goes out of their way to insult them, or call them stupid. They avoid doing so as carefully as they would avoid a poisonous snake.
Ask the question, why should a black man be ignorant, and you will generally get the excellent and generally true answer that society in general and our educational establishment in particular failed him.
Well, here’s a CLUE for the clueless among us here. I know dozens of ignorant white men, and white women too. Notice I avoid the word stupid, mostly. They aren’t stupid, any more than an ignorant black man or woman is stupid. They are ignorant, all too often, because they never really had an opportunity to get a decent education.
You CAN communicate with them, if you make an honest effort to do so, and you CAN bring them around to supporting causes such as single payer health care, renewable energy, sensible drug laws, clean air laws, clean water laws, etc.
Maybe later tonight I will post a rant about approaches that WORK when you want an ignorant white man’s vote.
Like it or lump it, you aren’t likely to see the D Party, in any form, return to power anytime soon without the votes of the butts of your favorite jokes.